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PostSubject: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:45 pm

I am smart enough to know Joe's attorney, a high profile mob attorney, knew after they withdrew the Bankruptcy Petition the IRS and the FEDS would be all over them and it was just a matter of time before they were indicted.



 

So, I think they used the time getting as much cash as they could out of the country.



 

Bringing in “products” from Italy is a great way to get money out.



 

They also knew because Joe was not a citizen he would most likely be deported to Italy.  And I think they have that under control and he will have his money out of the country and do business for the mob out of the country.



 

This could be why last year there were so many trips to Mexico.  



 

Mexico is the center of the drug trade.  Mexico is close to the U.S., so close to family.
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:31 pm

It makes sense.Joe's smug self assured demeanor in the midst of the controversy.Teresa appeared the innocent vulnerable spouse.They won't spend on day in jail.despite 51 federal indictments.The show must go on.
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:33 pm

Tour - they are mafia.
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:27 pm

I didn't know there were any trips to Mexico.
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:32 pm

Since the Bankruptcy was taken back the Giudices were continually going on "vacations" with and without the girls, to Cancun and other Mexican locations.  Teresa put numerous pictures of them at the beach or Hotel pool of every trip and Joe could also have been going alone. 

Also, Joe was accompanying her on her trips to Texas and Florida, but seldom went with to other places.
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:54 pm

So he may have been setting up connections?

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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:43 pm

That is the way I see it.

I think they have been preparing for this for many many years. 

When you have the attorneys they have you know ahead what the Feds are planning.
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:46 pm

It is just like when Teresa was swearing she wasn't getting paid to do the magazine articles, etc., etc.   THAT WAS ALL ON ATTORNEY'S INSTRUCTIONS.

They knew the Feds were looking for undeclared income.  They knew the Feds were watching the show and interviews and all.  They knew if Teresa said she was paid for anything the Feds would be all over it.   So Teresa lied, lied and lied.
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:35 pm

I sure hope the feds have a mountain of evidence and they don't get away with a thing!

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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:03 pm

I think it is how much the Feds want to get the Giudice Family and their bosses.
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:21 pm

I wonder if Joe or Teresa will give up info.

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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:50 pm

what kind of info?  Hi
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:32 pm

Dianne, the FEDS are after information that they can use to close down the mafia.  They want to be able to put away and deport and all the leaders, the dons and capos.  They love to flip people with charges against them into informants using lesser jail time or the dropping of charges in exchange for information on the higher ups that they can use to convict the higher ups.
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:40 pm

i don't think Joe and Teresa have much to contribute to the feds.  pirat
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:18 pm

Please. 

Papa Giudice is the same as a capo they have oddles to give the Feds.  THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE THE ATTORNEYS THEY HAVE.

Do you think they could get the Attorneys they have to handle EVERYTHING for them if they were "connected" in a BIG way.

The simple thinking of ordinary people is what has given them so much power.    You see "dumb" Teresa and "jovial drunk but charming" Joe and think this act is them.  Just like with all the past Marfiosa, Capone, Bugsy Segal, Lucky Luciano, they were so charming, so dumb, so kind to widows and orphans, so loveable. 

I have a bridge in Nevada with your name on it.

If if you are thinking I am nuts come and talk to the people, forced by the Housing Authority, who live in their apartment buildings.  Or talk to the people, small business owners, who got caught in one of their scams and didn't have the money on time to pay them..
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:25 pm

I'm very familiar with the mob.  Unfortunately, the people look at the days when the mob was in Vegas and wish they were back instead of what we have now.  As Bob Stupeck once said,  when the mob was in Vegas, it was the safest city in the country.  Between the Mob and metro, we had no crime,  hell the mayor was a well known mob attorney.  His wife is now mayor.  nobody use to lock their doors.  The mobsters didn't want any attention brought on themselves,  that's why they killed Tony Spilato.  Hi
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:23 am

The difference is in Las Vegas the mob made their money off of gambling, in North Jersey the mob makes its money off of poor, invalid, and down-trodden people.
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:07 pm

Everything they have done is bad but what they did to those tenants was LOW. How they could possibly enjoy their own holidays in a warm home with plenty to eat and enjoy while those people were without electricity is beyond me. 
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:32 pm

Kathy this is the facts of the people out on the streets in the cold.

The Giudice Family (because of connections with the local government) have numerous, lucrative Section 8 (HUD - Federal Subsidized Housing) buildings in Paterson, Wayne and other North Jersey towns and cities.

This is how Section 8 works.  The government pays the building owner for the rent and utilities.
                                        The government alots the apartments - the tenants don't choose.

The Giudices take the money from the government but they don't keep the buildings upkept and they don't pay the utilities (even though they got the money to pay from the government).

The utilities bill on a building was $36,000 and Joe Giudice refused to pay.  The Utilities company shut the services off.  Joe still refused to pay.  He rewired the utilities coming into the building to bypass the meter so the utilities were illegally on and the usage was not being recorded.

He must have gotten many months free via the re-wiring before inspectors doing a routine walk through saw the "re-wiring" and told the utility company who went to the police and it was disconnected and the tenants were put out of the building until the utilities bill was paid.

That was when the news stations and the TV channels step in and did mass coverage and filming.  Until then the government and police did nothing.  Joe and Teresa still refused to pay the bill and went on a family vacation to Mexico.

Civilian and News Channel help came in and forced the Utility Company to turn on the heat for the tenants.  To date Joe and Teresa have not paid that utility bill and we think the government is now paying the Utility Company directly.

NICE PEOPLE.   This is how the mafia works.
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Sat Oct 26, 2013 4:24 pm

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Kathy this is the facts of the people out on the streets in the cold.

The Giudice Family (because of connections with the local government) have numerous, lucrative Section 8 (HUD - Federal Subsidized Housing) buildings in Paterson, Wayne and other North Jersey towns and cities.

This is how Section 8 works.  The government pays the building owner for the rent and utilities.
                                        The government alots the apartments - the tenants don't choose.

The Giudices take the money from the government but they don't keep the buildings upkept and they don't pay the utilities (even though they got the money to pay from the government).

The utilities bill on a building was $36,000 and Joe Giudice refused to pay.  The Utilities company shut the services off.  Joe still refused to pay.  He rewired the utilities coming into the building to bypass the meter so the utilities were illegally on and the usage was not being recorded.

He must have gotten many months free via the re-wiring before inspectors doing a routine walk through saw the "re-wiring" and told the utility company who went to the police and it was disconnected and the tenants were put out of the building until the utilities bill was paid.

That was when the news stations and the TV channels step in and did mass coverage and filming.  Until then the government and police did nothing.  Joe and Teresa still refused to pay the bill and went on a family vacation to Mexico.

Civilian and News Channel help came in and forced the Utility Company to turn on the heat for the tenants.  To date Joe and Teresa have not paid that utility bill and we think the government is now paying the Utility Company directly.

NICE PEOPLE.   This is how the mafia works.
 That is just shameful.

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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Sat Oct 26, 2013 4:57 pm

LMAO ,  They are mafia.  That is how they roll.  lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:31 pm

That is true. That is how they roll.

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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:55 pm

So if they could do this.They certainly have the connections to block people on FB that might criticize their activities.I'm still blocked,with no explanation.
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:59 pm

Of course.

Andy Cohen and Bravo control the page.

I would put money on Teresa's Crisis Management PR firm having a person watching the page and telling Bravo who to ban and all. 

Never forget Teresa is their biggest money maker so she rules.

The only way for Bravo and Andy Cohen to NOT do what Teresa wants is for her ratings to go down.

If Teresa and RHONJ's ratings go down, Bravo and Shed Media and Andy Cohen lose money.  Losing money is the only thing that will give Teresa the boot.
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PostSubject: Re: Teresa & Joe prepared for the indictments from pre Bankruptcy time.   Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:07 pm

I'm blocked from every FB page outside of confirmed family and friends.Perhaps that's why Andy was so incredulous when Nancy Grace said the the Guidice's will not get off lightly.You could tell he wanted to say something.He seems to be a weak link with loose lips,I'd bet he runs his mouth off camera.
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