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PostSubject: Giudice and the Mafia   Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:17 am

think we are on different vibes.

Maybe because I live here in Wayne I see it differently than others.

To me this is a serious American problem. The American people are so concerned about what is happening in other countries and on Television shows they are not paying attention to what is happening to them and to their country.

This sums it up https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1009851_238811262940377_1428847726_n.jpg.

The mafia is not like it was 100 years ago, 50 years ago or 20 years ago. With the computer age it has had to adjust also. Gambling has basically been taken over by States. Lotteries have replaced the numbers games, riverboats and local casinos have replaced the back room card rooms. Drugs are being controlled by other mafias such as the Mexican, Asian and Russian mafias. Corner stores and mom and pop businesses have been replaced by Target, Walmart, and Costco, ending the protection game, the "waste and garbage" business has been taken over by business owned by other country interests, and roads, ports, and bridges are now owned by the Japanese or United Emeritis.

So how does the local mafia make it's money? Section 8 housing, Food Stamp scamming, gas station scamming, and Internent scamming. A main source of income is Fraudulent Loans which are then defaulted on. AND FRAUDULENT CHAPTER 7 BANKRUPTCIES.

EVERYTHING IN THE GIUDICES LIFESTYLE and INCOME SOURCES SCREAK MAFIA. Teresa knew wat she was marrying into and she wanted to marry into the Mafia.
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:54 am

I believe she knew exactly what she was doing. She knew by marrying into that life she would have a type of power and of course the money made it even better.
Even though I can't stand them, I was shocked that they had that many charges. That pretty much sealed it for me that Joe was "connected". They had a scam going and their greed got them caught. I am so glad they got caught! bounce

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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:57 pm

thanks jonathan for the info, very enlightning
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:02 pm

i wonder if caroline and al suspected any of this since al's father worked for the mob. i'm sure their familiar with how things work.
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:08 pm

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i wonder if caroline and al suspected any of this since al's father worked for the mob. i'm sure their familiar with how things work.
I'd be willing to bet that they all knew. How much, is hard to say but I'm sure Caroline and Al knew. I think Jacqueline may have been a bit oblivious at first, but I think she's caught on by now.

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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:15 pm

maybe that has something to do with dina not wanting to be on the show.
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:18 pm

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maybe that has something to do with dina not wanting to be on the show.
I never thought of that. Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:25 pm

all the characters on this show seem like their hiding something.  look how upset rosie and kathy get when someone mentions their father.  just like caroline when someone mentioned al's father.  danielle has a shady backround.  everyon has something on somebody.
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:36 pm

They all seem to run in the same circles so I would think they have all rubbed shoulders with people they probably shouldn't have. Some more than others. lol Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:38 pm

I wonder how much the Bravo producers knew about Teresa and Joe when they first started filming.
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:55 pm

I 100% believe they knew.

There is no way they diddn't know because they have everyone vetted thoroughly before they hire them to make sure there is nothing that would make them libel for anything.

Look at how fast they got rid of Danielle because she broke her contract and took criminal charges out on Jacqueline's daughter after what happened at a "staged" event.  The true to Bravo and having to milk every cent out of it, is how they they put it all on the show and milked, milked, milked, then axed Danielle because they had Melissa as a replacement.
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:08 pm

Looking back at the episode where Jac and Teresa were talking and Jac said, "So, are you going to jail or what?" Jac was talking about this, wasn't she? I think the highlight was on T all along to get evidence on film... And/or to see just how people like that really act and how they live.

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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:12 pm

I think you are looking at it as a housewife and mother, not a business person.  Bravo doesn't care about evidence.  They were setting Jac up for the split they wanted to make money - pure and simple.  I think they knew what would set Tre off and they wanted fighting because viewers love fighting and fighting makes the ratings go up so more money.  I think most of the fights, little or small are staged.  I think this is what JtheG's law suit is all about.  He was verbally promised money for the fight and they didn't pay and didn't offer them a contract.
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:22 pm

True, I am looking at it as a viewer.

I bet some people knew that the cameras would eventually bust Teresa on her lies and nasty ways. Teresa couldn't keep up with all her lies, but the camera did!
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:37 pm

I am looking at it as person who is slightly older than Teresa and Joe, who grew up in Paterson (and knew of them both) and has resided in Wayne since graduating University.  So I am very much aware of the Giudices, the Gorgas, and the Wakiles.

I understand business.

It gets me so angry that because viewers keep watching the show, they are PAYING Teresa's attorneys.  This pisses me off to the extreme.

Doesn't anyone on here realize if they stopped watching and others stopped watching Teresa would not be being paid the millions she is from Bravo and endorsements and would not be able to pay the "super mafia attornies" and the "Massive Crisis Management PR Firm" to get her off.  Because the Feds are watching so closely this is the money that can legally and unquestionably go direct to the attornies and PR firm.

Thank you all for paying her legal fees.
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:02 pm

Johnathan Niltze wrote:
I am looking at it as person who is slightly older than Teresa and Joe, who grew up in Paterson (and knew of them both) and has resided in Wayne since graduating University.  So I am very much aware of the Giudices, the Gorgas, and the Wakiles.

I understand business.

It gets me so angry that because viewers keep watching the show, they are PAYING Teresa's attorneys.  This pisses me off to the extreme.

Doesn't anyone on here realize if they stopped watching and others stopped watching Teresa would not be being paid the millions she is from Bravo and endorsements and would not be able to pay the "super mafia attornies" and the "Massive Crisis Management PR Firm" to get her off.  Because the Feds are watching so closely this is the money that can legally and unquestionably go direct to the attornies and PR firm.

Thank you all for paying her legal fees.
 
I'm rather nauseous right now. pale

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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:33 pm

I am sorry Kathryn but this is the truth.
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:38 pm

Yes and the truth hurts. :/

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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:44 pm

The reason why I can not post on the page is because I was hinting at this and I think the moderator told Bravo what might be posted and Bravo didn't want it on for a minute.  I found that if I posted at night it would take until 10 to 11 the next day to disappear so many got to read my posts. 

Bravo knows their viewers are not business people because the shows are oriented at housewives and salaried people.  They twist a lot and get away with it.  The highly educated and hard working business people may tune in for Inside the Actors Guild, but little else.  Anderson Cooper and Kelly Ripa watched and push the shows because of their close friendships with Andy Cohen.  When I watched WWHL I noticed how most of the guests were on there because they were doing the NBC promotional tour for a movie or a show and they had basically no idea about Bravo Shows.

Bravo doesn't want the general viewing public to put the pieces together. 

Bravo and CBS are not ethical as far as I am concerned.
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:51 pm

I heard somewhere that CBS = Can't Believe Sources or Can't Believe Schitt
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:28 pm

Johnathan Niltze wrote:
The reason why I can not post on the page is because I was hinting at this and I think the moderator told Bravo what might be posted and Bravo didn't want it on for a minute.  I found that if I posted at night it would take until 10 to 11 the next day to disappear so many got to read my posts. 

Bravo knows their viewers are not business people because the shows are oriented at housewives and salaried people.  They twist a lot and get away with it.  The highly educated and hard working business people may tune in for Inside the Actors Guild, but little else.  Anderson Cooper and Kelly Ripa watched and push the shows because of their close friendships with Andy Cohen.  When I watched WWHL I noticed how most of the guests were on there because they were doing the NBC promotional tour for a movie or a show and they had basically no idea about Bravo Shows.

Bravo doesn't want the general viewing public to put the pieces together. 

Bravo and CBS are not ethical as far as I am concerned.
Jonathan,Your posts imo were knowledgeable and insightful.How refreshing to read some accurate information and common sense.I believe that the RHONJ "actors"  frequent the FB page under aliases.Names Like" Smith" and so forth.I was spammed among other things,and my woes began when I participated on that page.
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:05 pm

Thank you.

I am pretty sure the cast have either family members or paid PR people working the page and twitter for them.  I think Heather MacLean is the one on there for Teresa, under many names.
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:38 pm

Pathetic.Just how far reaching this goes is anyone's guess.Not to be melodramatic but I never had hate messages sent to me before either.They are not above criminal activity.Internet or otherwise.The way they tooled around after Sandy in their Mercedes spending wads of stolen cash.Then gathering up their unwanted glad rags to give to the poor unfortunates(,because they are so charitable.)Unbelievable.Really,jail is to good for them.
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:45 pm

I hope the Feds have found out where the money is being stashed.  Where it is going.

They don't spend money.  They take what they want.  They don't pay. They take.  The cars and boats and all are leased, not bought so nothing can be repoed.
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PostSubject: Re: Giudice and the Mafia   Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:52 pm

They are all criminals.Each one of those cast members knew about the activities,and most likely profited.They all turned on the Guidices to distance themselves when the griddle got turned on.
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